5 corner kicking drill

[AnthonyM]

Hey im new to this forum so just wanted to say hi to everyone and also if anyone can how to execute the 5 corner kicking drill? im really confused on previous instructions on another forum Thanx

[LMD II]

Hello Anthony!

This drill is not actually hard to execute at all! You start facing front with your feet positioned squarely, about shoulder width apart. Your hands will be open and relaxed, held in front of your chest with your elbows down. Imagine that you are standing at the center of a large clock, and 12:00 is directly in front of you. Now, you will execute the following five kicks with the right leg in the direction of the specified numbers on the clock. There will be a brief tap on the floor with the foot between each kick (often called a "touch down").

Straight Kick to 12:00
Angular Hook Kick to 1:30
Side Kick to 3:00
Angular Side/Back Kick to 4:30
Back Kick to 6:00

Then immediately with the left leg:

Straight Kick to 12:00
Angular Hook Kick to 10:30
Side Kick to 9:00
Angular Side/Back Kick to 7:30
Back Kick to 6:00

You can also have a partner call out a time and you react by firing a kick with the correct leg to the proper target. To get really creative with the drill, try executing it from the bai jong position! Hope this helps!

[Tim Tackett]

I'm pretty sure that this is an Oakland kicking drill. At least I have it on some Oakland notes. It's a great drill and similar to kicking set 3 that Bruce taught in Chinatown.

[LMD II]

Hi Tim!

Yes, it is DEFINITELY an Oakland drill. I remember Dave Cox covered three way and five way kicking during one of the Nucleus events. He also covers it in his book, "Tao of Gung Fu: Kicking Drills".

[Valpolicella]

Good question.
Did Bruce have a certain number of these kicking patterns?
I've heard about wing chun havind a kicking posts pattern. I wonder if this is something Bruce Leee learned and later modified. Or just a good training tool.

[Tim Tackett]

In Chinatown Bruce had 5 kicking sets that cover all the kicks in JKD. There's very little wing chun in them.

[AnthonyM]

Thank You Sifu Lamar, also whats the 3 set kicking pattern?

[LMD II]

Hello Anthony!

Take the following from the 5 Corner Kicking Drill and you have the 3 Corner Kicking Drill:

Right Leg:
Straight Kick to 12:00
Side Kick to 3:00
Back Kick to 6:00

Left Leg:
Straight Kick to 12:00
Side Kick to 9:00
Back Kick to 6:00

[RZA]

In Chinatown Bruce had 5 kicking sets that cover all the kicks in JKD. There's very little wing chun in them.
Mr. Tacket or Mr. Davis!
Could you please tell us what these 5 kicking sets are?
Thank you.

[Tim Tackett]

How can I tell you in a forum? You need to find someone to teach them to you. The 1st 4 are beginning sets that teach the basic footwork and kicks in JKD. They are 1st learned classically then done non-classically. Like the shadowboxing set or hand set that Bruce created. The last set is the Little Dragon Kicking Set and has 62 or so kicks in it. Something like these may be in Dave Cox's book. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet as I can't find it anywhere. Dave a very good JKD'er so I'm sure there's good info in his book.

[RZA]

The last set is the Little Dragon Kicking Set and has 62 or so kicks in it.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to write all the 5 kicking sets. I'm already familiar with the 5th one. I'm aware that it's that long and of course it would be pretty difficult to explain and to understand It on a forum. What I meant to ask you is if you could explain the 1st, 2nd and the 4th. The reason why I asked if you could explain the sets are beacause you said that the kicking drill that Mr. Davis explained very easily was similar to the 3rd china town set that you were taught. That's why I thought that the 1st, 2nd and 4th were just as easy to explain.

[Tim Tackett]

They're a bit more difficult. I'm sure you can find someone to show them to you.

[RZA]

Thank you for the quick answers Mr. Tacket.

[Geoff]

just wondering if i kept to the principles of jkd could i make the sets up myself ?.....like bruce said. "man the living creature is always more inportant than any style or system"

[Jared Davis]

this may sound stupid, but bruce had hand sets? what did that consist of?


also, i realize i need to find someone to teach them to me, but in regards to the kicking sets, are there any books out there that give some more info? i already found that book Mr. Tackett was talking about by David Cox, I just have to order it now. I was just wondering if theres any more info out there on it in any books.

[Geoff]

Bruce lee when he moved to hong kong only knew the 6-3/4 sections of the 10 sets at of wing chun dummy 108 or 116 moves. and that in 1973 he sort out yip man to learn the other sets he didnt know.actually i think it was yip mans son who taught him the last moves.
the jkd sets are numbered to 1 to 12 sections but have no set pattern so you can free lance them in any order going from 1.3.5.8.9 or 5.8.9.2.1. or 123456789 10 11 12.bruce had many ways off calling "it" "jkd free lancing sets" "shadow boxing with the dummy" "expressing ones self on the dummy" performed from left or right leeds.
at times when bruce used the dummy you couldnt see any wing chun... then he jump to something that looked like wing chun.
bruce wrote a letter to james lee stating to use the training method and use karate.judo.aikido,or any style to build counter offensive.

[Tim Tackett]

Bruce taught a hand set, but you threw it away yourself after you learned it. The hand set and the 1st 4 kicking sets were to give you some of the material for shadowboxing which we did a part of our warmups. Expressing ourselves through shadowboxing was our kata. Where did you find Cox's book?

[Geoff]

Like mr inosanto said "do you have to know every tree to know its a forest" ??

[Jared Davis]

I found it at

http://www.ryukyu.com

go to the book catalog, and search for "cox"

thats how i found it. i just have to order it now.



so the hand sets consisted of something like jabs, crosses, etc with trapping IE boang, tan, etc? mixed with the footwork?


i think understand a part of what you mean in terms of the sets as warm ups. when i trained with one of cass's guys, before stretching we did foot work (push shuffle, advance retreat, step right, double advance, etc.) then we did them with punches. is this similar to what your talking about?

[Geoff]

I dont think bruce mixed anything with footwork because it was just he was in a process and the tan sao and bong sao was just apart of his person...as the roots were inbodied in him.
Its an interesting thing though do we have to learn how to cruel to learn how to run once we started to learn how to walk? so in other words we all had to go through that process of hacking away at the inner play of energy.be it from individual trees like pac sao jul sao jut sao huen sao puch kick grab etc.
At the fight in th YMCA bruce did something he never thought he do and he just grabbed the guy and took him to the floor.

[Geoff]

ps when bruce moved to america he only knew part of the dummy sets and not moved to hong kong.(correction)

[Jared Davis]

lol i wasnt implying that, i was just typing an example. you can mix in trapping and boxing in footwork after you have foot work down solid in the form of shadowboxing, not to mention with the mook jong you can flow from lets say a pak loy da to a pak ha da to a million different trapping combinations and seamlessly flow back to boxing if need be.

[Tim Tackett]

Shadowboxing is attacking and defending against 1 or more imaginary opponents while moving.

[JKDawg]

Just wanted to let you know how much I appreciated you listing the kicking drill. Stuff like this is great for those of us who have a background in JKD already,but want to learn more of the stuff Bruce Lee actually did! I was doing the kicking drills today!