playing between the keys

[Geoff]

It seems curtain pieces of equipement is like playing between the keys of different kinds of instruments have either 1,,,a light triger squeeze example the bottom and top ball 2,,, something inbetween like a heavy bag and 3,,,,the thousand way dummy,(the heavy punch)
Its reported that bruce in the later stages told one of his students to keep everthing light.... to mention the light bags,bottom and top ball.focus pads.
It seemed bruce was getting away from hitting the sand bags for 8 hours a day and that he saw no purpose in it anymore.
Most of his later workout programs would consist of the pump and flush method of the curcuit training which would include many repititions of his own body weight.,,,,i was wondering what bruces idea was about bracking away from deeper triger squeezes? but on saying that it seems bruce still used the heavy bag,,,could it be that bruce found that using his whole body with his punching and kicking that this was the" idea" so to speak and that if a 12 stone person only used his arm to hit then it would have not much effect ,,,,,if say a 10 stone person hitting with proper body mechanics or "over occurring circles"
There seems "GREAT" information on this forum that ive read i also believe that not nescererly one can just read that information and think he has the answers......i think its with the "showing" new information that the proper "positions" can be applied.and that only curtain things you can find for yourself(a contradiction with another post) The thousand way dummy ive found tends to telegraph in curtain ereas because of the force one has to apply from a short range(you cant hit it like a heavy bag).....it does seem i telegraph in curtain ereas after watching it many,many tiimes....it also seems one has to play between the keys in a different way because of the traps and punches tend to have contradiction in the trigger squeeze.(as ive attached a arm to it) but in saying that you can take it off.
does anyone find this deeper triger when trying to hit and trying to knock the guy out? or when hitting the heavy bag one tends to have a deeper triger inside a cadence that after a snappy punch or two one brings in a heavy kind of blow??or mayb it could be the other away around if the case caused for it.

[Tim Tackett]

The difference between training equipment's effects are very true. We believe that there is no set answer for everyone as each person's needs are different. We tend to use focus gloves and kicking shields the most. If we didn't have a training partner then we would use the top and bottom bag, heavy bag and dummy more than we do at the present time. We're lucky that we have someone to hold the equipment for us.

[Geoff]

so with the deeper triger squeeze it can be spotted by the opponent....and act on that... with interception, so one can hit inbetween the keys as theres a deeper triger,but in saying that if you trained the other end ,you have both and that you can fight inside and outside.....in the trenches and and play with the fast technicians...
so with the different posts that theres two ways you can train....forexample sentitivity in aura and kinetic in aura that two types of triger squeeze.
now just say i was in unmatched leeds with someone(me right, him left leed etc) i have my right tan sao and him left fook sao,now when i jul sao hook whatever instead of him covering with one of the four corners he would slip his oppoents hook line going into rear cross,left hook (kinetic) or before the hook comes, punch of his fook sao(sentitivity)
What im trying to say is that you can learn jkd through the kinetics idea and apply a different kind of energy.although you may take some ideas from the sensitivity but you dont have to learn it all.
so therefore it doesnt really matter how you train or what one you choose ....sensitivity or the kinetics or ying and yang and that there are two different paths and theres no wrong path....

[Tim Tackett]

You need to train so that you can deal with any situation. This is why our group also trains with weapons. I fact I go to renew my gun carry permit this week.

[Geoff]

hi tim i meant with the two different approaches....some say you need to practice the first form(sentitivity) and the other is kinetic where you can get from blasting the bag......and that where bruce was in 1973. everthing was based on different set of principles in the attributes...

[Geoff]

so therefore theres two camps off thought.....but if you say train the kinetics approach say 80% then you have to have 20% of the sensitivity otherwise you be going to the extreame.....so in bruce lees later stage it wasnt nescererly you had to train say 50 ...50 but you still had to get some of the senstivity down like i think you said that you practice chi sao for the forward pressure but dont train every senitivity drill because theres no need... for this kind of approach.
like i said with the different set of priciples in the attributes...

[Tim Tackett]

To be honest I don't know what percentage we do of anything. I can be a danger to over analyze everything too much. Just train, have fun, spar a lot, and you'll find out what works for you.

[Valpolicella]

What does it mean whenyou are discussing a light trigger squeeze and the deeper trigger squeeze?
What is a 1000 way dummy?
Thank you.

[Geoff]

ps ...you can see a clip of the thousand way dummy on "martial arts master video" as i think mr richard bustilio uses it. and showing other stuff on the clip to,like bruces hand gripper....i think the viedo is only 14 ,99.... i was looking on mr lamar davis web site and you can see it on a picture.
mainly ive got this information working with other jkd instructors in the past and just training myself....seminars and things.
Therefore i dont know much...empty cup thirsty :roll:

[john]

http://members.lycos.co.uk/JKDGlasgow/images/thousand.jpg

[Geoff]

thanks john..

[john]

No worries. Thats a picture of Tommy Carruthers 1000 way dummy.